Concerning potential Gunn 'Chief' lines 1; Esther
Part One
Preliminary; the Gunn 'Chief' line
· Donald Crottach, the 6th Mackeamish b c 1665-1709, had children
o Alexander Gunn of Badenloch later Wester Helmsdale whose children included William 8th Mackeamish and Morison 9th Mackeamish (d. 1785).
o William Gunn; his line continues but he is ruled out of being Chief by Lord Lyon due to ‘alienage’, (loyalty to the Dutch King in this case).
o George Gunn ‘Corrish’
o Esther Gunn. (See Lord Lyon’s comment below.)
o ‘Unknown’ Gunn who marries John of Kinbrace. (See Lord Lyon’s comment below.)
Lord Lyon on the Clan Gunn Chief issue.
The below is an extract; for the complete document see http://www.lyon-court.com/lordlyon/files/Gunn,%20Michael%20James%20-%20Interlocutor%20and%20Note.pdf
Lord Lyon, Interlocutor 20 September 2011
‘The recording of the names of the daughters of no.7 Donald Crottach 6th Mackeamish... that is the no 29a Esther married to Donald Mackay of Skerray and no 30 an unnamed daughter , married to John Gunn of or in Kinbrace, and the recording of George Gunn in Dalfridh as the son of the said unnamed daughter, no 30 and the son of John Gunn of or in Kinbrace...
No 37 Hector Gunn in Thurso served heir male in 1803, through his father no 36 George Gunn in Knockfinn, and grandfather no 35 John Gunn in Kinbrace to his great grandfather no 34, George Gunn of Borrobol, younger son of 6 Alexander 5th Mackeamish...
Extinction of heirs male of the body of no.37 the said Hector Gunn...
Accepting that the (Gunn Chief) succession is open to heirs whomsoever...
So, in determining the Clan Gunn Chief, male and female lines are equally valid. The issue here is now looking towards the most senior line from the MacHamish line.
29a Esther Gunn
‘no 29a Esther married to Donald Mackay of Skerray’ Lord Lyon.
(Mark Rugg Gunn Page 168. Mark Rugg Gunn says Donald had ‘three sons, Alexander, George of Borrobol and William, and several daughters, one of whom (Esther) married Mckay of Shurrery and another John Gunn of Kinbrace.’ Bold is by me. Shurrery and Skerray are just too similar in old fashioned handwriting; Shurrery is just wrong. Occasionally, elsewhere, it is Scowry / Scourie. )
The first issue is to have approximate years. Donald Crottach is recorded as dead by 1723 in Mark Rugg Gunn’s book, page 169. The years 1650-1723 are given on page 369. Burke’s Peerage gives c. 1665-1709. This would give an approximate birth date range of 1670+ - 1690 for the two daughters (Esther and the ‘unknown’ who married John Gunn of Kinbrace) and marriage dates of say 1690-1710.
Discussion
‘Donald of Skerray, (who had sasine in his father’s lands, dated 17th May 1723,) married Esther, daughter of Donald Gunn, chief of the clan-Gun; issue a daughter, married to John Mackay of Mondale; issue George who emigrated to America, Major Donald Mackay of Eriboll; Lieutenant William and four daughters, all mentioned in the Clan-Abrach branch...’
Page 572, History of The House and Clan Mackay by Robert Mackay (1829)
There is confusion in the Mackay book as to Donald Mackay’s parents, and the four unnamed daughters, as a generation shifts as pages are turned, but they are descended from Esther Gunn no matter which generation one places them in..
So
· Donald Mackay married Esther Gun
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jandjroots/Mackay/d0010/g0000082.html
o Lt William (DWI)
Daughters ‘married;
o the eldest to Hugh Mackay in Kylestrome (Coylestrome); issue[1]
o the next (Elizabeth) to (Angus) George Morison in Strathmore, chief forester to Lord Reay, b 1740issue[2]
o the third to Robert Innes in Portchamil / Porty Chamull
o and the fourth to James Duncan in Mondale’ (page 561)
But more children are known than were given in History of the House and Clan Mackay by Robert Mackay 1829, seehttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jandjroots/Mackay/d0009/g0000054.html#I4374
· Jane Scobie who marries B. Mackenzie abt 1820.With children
o Boyce J Mackenzie 1821- issue by his second wife Susan Townsend
o Mackay D. S Mackenzie 1826 Creich, marries Margaret Stevenson, Issue
o John Mackenzie b c. 1828
But a crucial point is found on--
http://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=judym3&view=86&ver=215 and
http://suthpeople.blogspot.co.uk/2007/08/mackenzie-scobie.html
Which are both by the same person. The relevant sections go
Those in bold are mentioned in the first part of this article. ‘Tacksman of Melness’ is also on one of the sites. Her main error is ‘Major John's wife Barbara MACKAY was a daughter of John MACKAY of Strathy.’ Strathy is wrong; it should be Skerray... There are many descendants shown on these webpages.
Summary
To restate; many descendants for 29a Esther Gunn exist; for example see Barbara Mackay (below) who was the granddaughter of Esther Gunn and Donald Mackay. The descendants include living people. At the moment they do not know the importance of this descent as to know Esther Gunn was a descendant of the MacHamish line is only mentioned in the 1829 book (and in one or two other obscure places) before Lyon’s recent announcement, and to know that Chiefs may inherit through the female line is also awkward to find out. Quite simply, this is a very important line for further research. It may provide the Gunn 'Chief' by direct descent, let alone providing the senior cadet line...
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Descendants of the above Barbara Mackay
Generation 1
1. Barbara Mackay was born 1775 in Durness, Sutherland and died 17 Dec 1854 in Keoldale, Sutherland. She married Mackay John Scobie 29 Jul 1803. He was born 1774 and died 02 Nov 1818 in Scotland, son of John Scobie and Barbara Mackay.
Children of Barbara Mackay and Mackay John Scobie:
i.2.Jane Scobie was born 15 Jun 1804 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 15 Feb 1885 in Creich, Parish of Creich, Sutherland
ii.Donald Mackay Scobie was born 12 Jul 1805 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 09 Apr 1878 in Keolale, Durness, Sutherland
iii.3.John Scobie was born 13 May 1807 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 12 Apr 1889 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland
iv.Bessie Johanna Scobie was born 19 Jan 1809 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 31 May 1891 in Smoo House, Smooside, Durness
v.Barbara Scobie was born 02 May 1810 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 14 Aug 1891 in Smoo House, Smooside, Durness
vi.4.Mitchell Forbes Scobie was born 12 Jan 1815 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 06 Jul 1861 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland
Generation 2
2. Jane Scobie was born 15 Jun 1804 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 15 Feb 1885 in Creich, Parish of Creich, Sutherland. She married Boyce Mackenzie 14 Oct 1840. He was born 1792 in Edderachillis, Sutherland and died 27 Jul 1877 in Creich, Parish of Creich, Sutherland, son of John Mackenzie and Janet Scobie.
Children of Jane Scobie and Boyce Mackenzie:
i.5.Boyce John Mackenzie was born 1844 in Durness, Southerland and died 15 Jan 1921 in Tunbridge Wells, Kent
ii.6.Mackay Donald Mackenzie was born 07 Aug 1846 in Kincardine, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland and died 06 Sep 1934 in 14 Fairmont Road, Boxhill on Sea
iii.7.John Mackenzie was born 14 Jun 1848 in Kincardine, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
3. John Scobie was born 13 May 1807 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 12 Apr 1889 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland. He married Johanna Mackinnon 28 Nov 1844. She was born 19 May 1823 and died 02 Jul 1884 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland.
Children of John Scobie and Johanna Mackinnon:
i.Barbara Mackay Scobie was born 01 Nov 1846 in Stornaway, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland and died 12 May 1885 in Keolale, Durness, Sutherland
ii.8.Neil Farquhar Scobie was born 07 Oct 1848 in Stornaway, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
iii.Margaret Flora Scobie was born 21 Sep 1850 in Assynt
iv.9.
Mackay John Scobie was born 19 Mar 1854 and died 04 Mar 1928 in England
v.Alice Margaret Scobie was born 12 Apr 1856 in Assynt and died 29 Sep 1927 in Hove, Sussex
vi.Unnamed Scobie was born 03 Apr 1858 in Assynt and died Apr 1858 in Assynt
vii.10.Donald Mackay Scobie was born 11 May 1859
viii.James Matheson Scobie was born 11 May 1859 and died 02 Jan 1917 in Smoo House, Smooside, Durness
ix.Maria Mitchell Scobie was born 30 Dec 1863 in Sutherland and died 20 Apr 1894 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland
4. Mitchell Forbes Scobie was born 12 Jan 1815 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 06 Jul 1861 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland. He married Flora Forbes 1844. She was born 1810 and died 20 Feb 1848 in Honeysuckle Creek, near Violet Town, Vic.
Children of Mitchell Forbes Scobie and Flora Forbes:
i.11.Mackay John Scobie was born 1846 in Melbourne, Victoria and died 26 Sep 1894 in Edinburgh, Scotland
Generation 3
5. Boyce John Mackenzie was born 1844 in Durness, Southerland and died 15 Jan 1921 in Tunbridge Wells, Kent. He married Susanna Isabel Townsend 15 Apr 1891. She was born 1865 and died 14 Mar 1949 in Fulmer Grange, Stoke Poges, Buckinghamsh.
6. Mackay Donald Mackenzie was born 07 Aug 1846 in Kincardine, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland and died 06 Sep 1934 in 14 Fairmont Road, Boxhill on Sea. He married Florence Margaret Stevenson 09 Dec 1886. She was born 1856 in South Shields, Durham.
7. John Mackenzie was born 14 Jun 1848 in Kincardine, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. He married Mary Catherine Milner 30 Sep 1886.
8. Neil Farquhar Scobie was born 07 Oct 1848 in Stornaway, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. He married Louisa Sullivan 26 Aug 1876. She was born 1850 in Canada. (living descendants...)
9. Mackay John Scobie was born 19 Mar 1854 and died 04 Mar 1928 in England. He marriedLouisa Scott 22 Nov 1888. She died 17 Jul 1940 in England.
10. Donald Mackay Scobie was born 11 May 1859. He married Maud Emily Unknown.
11. Mackay John Scobie was born 1846 in Melbourne, Victoria and died 26 Sep 1894 in Edinburgh, Scotland. He married Matilda Agnes Hamilton. She was born 1847 in Calcutta, India.
Source http://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=judym3&view=77&report&pid=52
[1] William Mackay b c 1750 Kylestrome Book of Mackay, p261 ‘ son of Hugh Mackay of Coylestrome in Lord Reay’s country, who was an officer in the Queen’s Rangers during the American Revolution ... at the same time he was preparing to settle on his land in the Bay of Kenty (Kentucky?) , on Lake Ontario’... 1817
[2] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jandjroots/Mackay/d0007/g0000038.html married 29 October 1768 Durness. Children Katherine Morison b. 1769 Eriboll, John Morison 1771 Islandschorie, Janet Morison 1771 Islandschoarie
[3] Gravestone at Balnakiel reads ‘In loving memory of John Scobie DL JP Chamberlain of the Lews 1844-1848. Tenant at Lochinver 1848-1852 who died at Keoldale 12 April 1889 aged 81 years. And of Johanna Mackinnon his Wife. Daughter of Captain Neil Mackinnon 93rd Regiment who died at Keoldale 2nd July 1884 aged 61 years. A true and beautiful helpmeet and loving mother. Capt Ian (John Allen) Mackay Scobie MC 59th Royal Scinde Rifles FF killed in action Mesopotamia March 1916 aged 24 ... John ANM Scobie Lt Royal Engineers killed in the Great War 29th July 1916 aged 21. His brother Keith Macdonald Scobie Lt RGA and Royal Air Force killed in the Great War 27 Octr 1918 aged 21 years. Their father DM Scobie, youngest son of John Scobie.http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/7612661/person/-492832387/photo/f472e33f-4d12-42d4-811b-cd4ed94d6f70?src=search I assume therefore, the DM Scobie was Donald Mackie Scobie, above.
[4] http://www.macleodgenealogy.org/ACMS/D0048/I4620.html Mackay John was born on 19th March 1854 and was an engineer in Bengal, retiring after 32 years service in 1900. He died on 4th March 1928 at Bournemouth. He married 22 November 1888 Louisa Scott with issue.
Preliminary; the Gunn 'Chief' line
· Donald Crottach, the 6th Mackeamish b c 1665-1709, had children
o Alexander Gunn of Badenloch later Wester Helmsdale whose children included William 8th Mackeamish and Morison 9th Mackeamish (d. 1785).
o William Gunn; his line continues but he is ruled out of being Chief by Lord Lyon due to ‘alienage’, (loyalty to the Dutch King in this case).
o George Gunn ‘Corrish’
o Esther Gunn. (See Lord Lyon’s comment below.)
o ‘Unknown’ Gunn who marries John of Kinbrace. (See Lord Lyon’s comment below.)
Lord Lyon on the Clan Gunn Chief issue.
The below is an extract; for the complete document see http://www.lyon-court.com/lordlyon/files/Gunn,%20Michael%20James%20-%20Interlocutor%20and%20Note.pdf
Lord Lyon, Interlocutor 20 September 2011
‘The recording of the names of the daughters of no.7 Donald Crottach 6th Mackeamish... that is the no 29a Esther married to Donald Mackay of Skerray and no 30 an unnamed daughter , married to John Gunn of or in Kinbrace, and the recording of George Gunn in Dalfridh as the son of the said unnamed daughter, no 30 and the son of John Gunn of or in Kinbrace...
No 37 Hector Gunn in Thurso served heir male in 1803, through his father no 36 George Gunn in Knockfinn, and grandfather no 35 John Gunn in Kinbrace to his great grandfather no 34, George Gunn of Borrobol, younger son of 6 Alexander 5th Mackeamish...
Extinction of heirs male of the body of no.37 the said Hector Gunn...
Accepting that the (Gunn Chief) succession is open to heirs whomsoever...
So, in determining the Clan Gunn Chief, male and female lines are equally valid. The issue here is now looking towards the most senior line from the MacHamish line.
29a Esther Gunn
‘no 29a Esther married to Donald Mackay of Skerray’ Lord Lyon.
(Mark Rugg Gunn Page 168. Mark Rugg Gunn says Donald had ‘three sons, Alexander, George of Borrobol and William, and several daughters, one of whom (Esther) married Mckay of Shurrery and another John Gunn of Kinbrace.’ Bold is by me. Shurrery and Skerray are just too similar in old fashioned handwriting; Shurrery is just wrong. Occasionally, elsewhere, it is Scowry / Scourie. )
The first issue is to have approximate years. Donald Crottach is recorded as dead by 1723 in Mark Rugg Gunn’s book, page 169. The years 1650-1723 are given on page 369. Burke’s Peerage gives c. 1665-1709. This would give an approximate birth date range of 1670+ - 1690 for the two daughters (Esther and the ‘unknown’ who married John Gunn of Kinbrace) and marriage dates of say 1690-1710.
Discussion
‘Donald of Skerray, (who had sasine in his father’s lands, dated 17th May 1723,) married Esther, daughter of Donald Gunn, chief of the clan-Gun; issue a daughter, married to John Mackay of Mondale; issue George who emigrated to America, Major Donald Mackay of Eriboll; Lieutenant William and four daughters, all mentioned in the Clan-Abrach branch...’
Page 572, History of The House and Clan Mackay by Robert Mackay (1829)
There is confusion in the Mackay book as to Donald Mackay’s parents, and the four unnamed daughters, as a generation shifts as pages are turned, but they are descended from Esther Gunn no matter which generation one places them in..
So
· Donald Mackay married Esther Gun
- They had a daughter who married John Mackay of Mondale ‘by whom .. two sons and four daughters’ (page 560) ‘The sons were 1st Major Donald Mackay of Eriboll (b. c.1736) ... who married Bessie, daughter of the late James Mackay of Skerray’ (page 560) married c 1764 by whom... a daughter Barbara who, by her marriage with Captain Mackay John Scobie, late of Keoldale is mother of six children
- John Mackay (see
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jandjroots/Mackay/d0010/g0000082.html
- James Mackay
- ‘a daughter Barbara (Bessie) b. 1775 Durness who, by her marriage with Captain Mackay John Scobie late of Keoldale, (Tacksman of Melness) is mother of six children
o Lt William (DWI)
Daughters ‘married;
o the eldest to Hugh Mackay in Kylestrome (Coylestrome); issue[1]
o the next (Elizabeth) to (Angus) George Morison in Strathmore, chief forester to Lord Reay, b 1740issue[2]
o the third to Robert Innes in Portchamil / Porty Chamull
o and the fourth to James Duncan in Mondale’ (page 561)
But more children are known than were given in History of the House and Clan Mackay by Robert Mackay 1829, seehttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jandjroots/Mackay/d0009/g0000054.html#I4374
· Jane Scobie who marries B. Mackenzie abt 1820.With children
o Boyce J Mackenzie 1821- issue by his second wife Susan Townsend
o Mackay D. S Mackenzie 1826 Creich, marries Margaret Stevenson, Issue
o John Mackenzie b c. 1828
- John Scobie[3] 1807-1889 Tacksman of Lochinver, who married Johanna Mackinnon and had seven children (Neil Scobie 1838 Lochinver, died Montreal Canada, married Miss Sullivan with issue, Mackay John Scobie b. c 1840 married Miss Louisa Scott with issue[4], James M Scobie 1842-1905+, Donald Scobie 1844 married Miss J. Macewen, Barbara Jane Mackay Scobie 1846-1885, Alice Scobie 1848, Mary Scobie 1850-1894.
But a crucial point is found on--
http://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=judym3&view=86&ver=215 and
http://suthpeople.blogspot.co.uk/2007/08/mackenzie-scobie.html
Which are both by the same person. The relevant sections go
- Barbara Mackay 1775-1854 married Mackay Scobie 1774-1818 with children
- Jane Scobie 1804-1885 who marries Boyce Mackenzie 1792-1877. Issue; three children
- Donald Scobie 1805-1878
- John Scobie 1807-1889 who marries Johanna Mackinnon 1823-1884 Issue; nine children
- Bessie Scobie
- Barbara Scobie
- Mitchell Scobie 1815-1861 who marries Flora Forbes. Issue; two children
Those in bold are mentioned in the first part of this article. ‘Tacksman of Melness’ is also on one of the sites. Her main error is ‘Major John's wife Barbara MACKAY was a daughter of John MACKAY of Strathy.’ Strathy is wrong; it should be Skerray... There are many descendants shown on these webpages.
Summary
To restate; many descendants for 29a Esther Gunn exist; for example see Barbara Mackay (below) who was the granddaughter of Esther Gunn and Donald Mackay. The descendants include living people. At the moment they do not know the importance of this descent as to know Esther Gunn was a descendant of the MacHamish line is only mentioned in the 1829 book (and in one or two other obscure places) before Lyon’s recent announcement, and to know that Chiefs may inherit through the female line is also awkward to find out. Quite simply, this is a very important line for further research. It may provide the Gunn 'Chief' by direct descent, let alone providing the senior cadet line...
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Descendants of the above Barbara Mackay
Generation 1
1. Barbara Mackay was born 1775 in Durness, Sutherland and died 17 Dec 1854 in Keoldale, Sutherland. She married Mackay John Scobie 29 Jul 1803. He was born 1774 and died 02 Nov 1818 in Scotland, son of John Scobie and Barbara Mackay.
Children of Barbara Mackay and Mackay John Scobie:
i.2.Jane Scobie was born 15 Jun 1804 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 15 Feb 1885 in Creich, Parish of Creich, Sutherland
ii.Donald Mackay Scobie was born 12 Jul 1805 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 09 Apr 1878 in Keolale, Durness, Sutherland
iii.3.John Scobie was born 13 May 1807 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 12 Apr 1889 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland
iv.Bessie Johanna Scobie was born 19 Jan 1809 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 31 May 1891 in Smoo House, Smooside, Durness
v.Barbara Scobie was born 02 May 1810 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 14 Aug 1891 in Smoo House, Smooside, Durness
vi.4.Mitchell Forbes Scobie was born 12 Jan 1815 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 06 Jul 1861 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland
Generation 2
2. Jane Scobie was born 15 Jun 1804 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 15 Feb 1885 in Creich, Parish of Creich, Sutherland. She married Boyce Mackenzie 14 Oct 1840. He was born 1792 in Edderachillis, Sutherland and died 27 Jul 1877 in Creich, Parish of Creich, Sutherland, son of John Mackenzie and Janet Scobie.
Children of Jane Scobie and Boyce Mackenzie:
i.5.Boyce John Mackenzie was born 1844 in Durness, Southerland and died 15 Jan 1921 in Tunbridge Wells, Kent
ii.6.Mackay Donald Mackenzie was born 07 Aug 1846 in Kincardine, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland and died 06 Sep 1934 in 14 Fairmont Road, Boxhill on Sea
iii.7.John Mackenzie was born 14 Jun 1848 in Kincardine, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
3. John Scobie was born 13 May 1807 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 12 Apr 1889 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland. He married Johanna Mackinnon 28 Nov 1844. She was born 19 May 1823 and died 02 Jul 1884 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland.
Children of John Scobie and Johanna Mackinnon:
i.Barbara Mackay Scobie was born 01 Nov 1846 in Stornaway, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland and died 12 May 1885 in Keolale, Durness, Sutherland
ii.8.Neil Farquhar Scobie was born 07 Oct 1848 in Stornaway, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
iii.Margaret Flora Scobie was born 21 Sep 1850 in Assynt
iv.9.
Mackay John Scobie was born 19 Mar 1854 and died 04 Mar 1928 in England
v.Alice Margaret Scobie was born 12 Apr 1856 in Assynt and died 29 Sep 1927 in Hove, Sussex
vi.Unnamed Scobie was born 03 Apr 1858 in Assynt and died Apr 1858 in Assynt
vii.10.Donald Mackay Scobie was born 11 May 1859
viii.James Matheson Scobie was born 11 May 1859 and died 02 Jan 1917 in Smoo House, Smooside, Durness
ix.Maria Mitchell Scobie was born 30 Dec 1863 in Sutherland and died 20 Apr 1894 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland
4. Mitchell Forbes Scobie was born 12 Jan 1815 in Tongue, Sutherland and died 06 Jul 1861 in Keoldale, Durness, Sutherland. He married Flora Forbes 1844. She was born 1810 and died 20 Feb 1848 in Honeysuckle Creek, near Violet Town, Vic.
Children of Mitchell Forbes Scobie and Flora Forbes:
i.11.Mackay John Scobie was born 1846 in Melbourne, Victoria and died 26 Sep 1894 in Edinburgh, Scotland
Generation 3
5. Boyce John Mackenzie was born 1844 in Durness, Southerland and died 15 Jan 1921 in Tunbridge Wells, Kent. He married Susanna Isabel Townsend 15 Apr 1891. She was born 1865 and died 14 Mar 1949 in Fulmer Grange, Stoke Poges, Buckinghamsh.
6. Mackay Donald Mackenzie was born 07 Aug 1846 in Kincardine, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland and died 06 Sep 1934 in 14 Fairmont Road, Boxhill on Sea. He married Florence Margaret Stevenson 09 Dec 1886. She was born 1856 in South Shields, Durham.
7. John Mackenzie was born 14 Jun 1848 in Kincardine, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. He married Mary Catherine Milner 30 Sep 1886.
8. Neil Farquhar Scobie was born 07 Oct 1848 in Stornaway, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. He married Louisa Sullivan 26 Aug 1876. She was born 1850 in Canada. (living descendants...)
9. Mackay John Scobie was born 19 Mar 1854 and died 04 Mar 1928 in England. He marriedLouisa Scott 22 Nov 1888. She died 17 Jul 1940 in England.
10. Donald Mackay Scobie was born 11 May 1859. He married Maud Emily Unknown.
11. Mackay John Scobie was born 1846 in Melbourne, Victoria and died 26 Sep 1894 in Edinburgh, Scotland. He married Matilda Agnes Hamilton. She was born 1847 in Calcutta, India.
Source http://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=judym3&view=77&report&pid=52
[1] William Mackay b c 1750 Kylestrome Book of Mackay, p261 ‘ son of Hugh Mackay of Coylestrome in Lord Reay’s country, who was an officer in the Queen’s Rangers during the American Revolution ... at the same time he was preparing to settle on his land in the Bay of Kenty (Kentucky?) , on Lake Ontario’... 1817
[2] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jandjroots/Mackay/d0007/g0000038.html married 29 October 1768 Durness. Children Katherine Morison b. 1769 Eriboll, John Morison 1771 Islandschorie, Janet Morison 1771 Islandschoarie
[3] Gravestone at Balnakiel reads ‘In loving memory of John Scobie DL JP Chamberlain of the Lews 1844-1848. Tenant at Lochinver 1848-1852 who died at Keoldale 12 April 1889 aged 81 years. And of Johanna Mackinnon his Wife. Daughter of Captain Neil Mackinnon 93rd Regiment who died at Keoldale 2nd July 1884 aged 61 years. A true and beautiful helpmeet and loving mother. Capt Ian (John Allen) Mackay Scobie MC 59th Royal Scinde Rifles FF killed in action Mesopotamia March 1916 aged 24 ... John ANM Scobie Lt Royal Engineers killed in the Great War 29th July 1916 aged 21. His brother Keith Macdonald Scobie Lt RGA and Royal Air Force killed in the Great War 27 Octr 1918 aged 21 years. Their father DM Scobie, youngest son of John Scobie.http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/7612661/person/-492832387/photo/f472e33f-4d12-42d4-811b-cd4ed94d6f70?src=search I assume therefore, the DM Scobie was Donald Mackie Scobie, above.
[4] http://www.macleodgenealogy.org/ACMS/D0048/I4620.html Mackay John was born on 19th March 1854 and was an engineer in Bengal, retiring after 32 years service in 1900. He died on 4th March 1928 at Bournemouth. He married 22 November 1888 Louisa Scott with issue.
Part Two
From Thomas Sinclair The Gunns
Sinclair page 149. This, though, is from the ‘Appendix’ which the Aeneas Gunn tree is based on...
‘(Donald Crottach’s) eldest daughter Esther married Donald Mackay of Skerray, and was alive in 1723, while the other became Mrs John Gunn of Kinbrace...NB “Alexander Gunn of Navidale married a daughter of Donald Mackay, the first Lord Reay”’
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Clan Mackay history
The following is from History of the House and Clan of Mackay etc by Robert Mackay Edinburgh, 1829. Page 572.
‘Donald Mackay of Skerray (who had sasine in his father’s lands 17th May 1723) married Esther daughter of Donald Gunn, chief of the Clan Gunn issue a daughter married to John Mackay of Moudale, Issue George who emigrated to America, Major Donald Mackay of Eriboll; Lieutenant William; and four daughters all mentioned in the Clan Aberach branch’
So
· Donald Mackay married Esther Gunn (daughter of Donald Crottach)
o Issue a daughter married John Mackay of Moudale b 1691
A notable member of the Mackay of Aberach family is Ensign John Mackay of Moudale. A cadet of the Mackays of Aberach, he is infamous for leading an independent company of soldiers in support of the British Government during the Jacobite rising of 1745 – 1746. He and his men defeated a Jacobite force in what is now known as the Battle of Littleferry in 1746. Historian Angus Mackay calls John Mackay of Moudale a “hero” as he also captured George Mackenzie, 3rd Earl of Cromartie. John Mackay of Moudale descended directly from a younger son of Neil MacEan MacWilliam, V of Aberach.[34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackay_of_Aberach
o Issue George who emigrated to USA
o Issue Major Donald Mackay of Eriboll
Donald Mackay of Eriboll, son of Ensign John of Moudale, the hero of the
engagement of the Little Ferry in 1746; had been Lieutenant in the Duke of
Gordon's North Fencibles ; resigned 3oth November 1796; appointed Major
to the Northern Battalion of Sutherland Volunteers in 1803 ; died at Eriboll.
http://archive.org/stream/oldhighlandfenci00scobuoft/oldhighlandfenci00scobuoft_djvu.txt
o Lieutenant William
o Four daughters
So is the 'Chief' of the Clan Gunn in the Mackays?
From Thomas Sinclair The Gunns
Sinclair page 149. This, though, is from the ‘Appendix’ which the Aeneas Gunn tree is based on...
‘(Donald Crottach’s) eldest daughter Esther married Donald Mackay of Skerray, and was alive in 1723, while the other became Mrs John Gunn of Kinbrace...NB “Alexander Gunn of Navidale married a daughter of Donald Mackay, the first Lord Reay”’
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Clan Mackay history
The following is from History of the House and Clan of Mackay etc by Robert Mackay Edinburgh, 1829. Page 572.
‘Donald Mackay of Skerray (who had sasine in his father’s lands 17th May 1723) married Esther daughter of Donald Gunn, chief of the Clan Gunn issue a daughter married to John Mackay of Moudale, Issue George who emigrated to America, Major Donald Mackay of Eriboll; Lieutenant William; and four daughters all mentioned in the Clan Aberach branch’
So
· Donald Mackay married Esther Gunn (daughter of Donald Crottach)
o Issue a daughter married John Mackay of Moudale b 1691
A notable member of the Mackay of Aberach family is Ensign John Mackay of Moudale. A cadet of the Mackays of Aberach, he is infamous for leading an independent company of soldiers in support of the British Government during the Jacobite rising of 1745 – 1746. He and his men defeated a Jacobite force in what is now known as the Battle of Littleferry in 1746. Historian Angus Mackay calls John Mackay of Moudale a “hero” as he also captured George Mackenzie, 3rd Earl of Cromartie. John Mackay of Moudale descended directly from a younger son of Neil MacEan MacWilliam, V of Aberach.[34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackay_of_Aberach
o Issue George who emigrated to USA
o Issue Major Donald Mackay of Eriboll
Donald Mackay of Eriboll, son of Ensign John of Moudale, the hero of the
engagement of the Little Ferry in 1746; had been Lieutenant in the Duke of
Gordon's North Fencibles ; resigned 3oth November 1796; appointed Major
to the Northern Battalion of Sutherland Volunteers in 1803 ; died at Eriboll.
http://archive.org/stream/oldhighlandfenci00scobuoft/oldhighlandfenci00scobuoft_djvu.txt
o Lieutenant William
o Four daughters
So is the 'Chief' of the Clan Gunn in the Mackays?
